tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6343163817426504212.post918548973753035718..comments2023-08-15T14:13:25.881+01:00Comments on The Simple Pastor: Visit to Dudley (part 5)Phil Whittallhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02924050376023993196noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6343163817426504212.post-55299530761973727252008-09-12T23:34:00.000+01:002008-09-12T23:34:00.000+01:00Thankyou for this section. The Dudley outpouring i...Thankyou for this section. The Dudley outpouring is still going strong, with this coming week's meetings to be broadcast by GOD TV LIVE from September 18th for six consecutive nights. Recently one man shared a testimony in one of the meetings about a man resurrected from the dead here in the UK! You can see that and more in my blog <A HREF="http://rico7.wordpress.com" REL="nofollow">miracles on the streets of Dudley</A>Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6343163817426504212.post-44826578769217370392008-06-26T15:33:00.000+01:002008-06-26T15:33:00.000+01:00The underlying caution with all I have read and my...The underlying caution with all I have read and my own trip to Dudley is that history itself should be the judge of whether something is an outpouring, a revival or whatever.<BR/><BR/>The naming rights do not belong to the marketing men of a media organisation or a ministry's own website.<BR/><BR/>My great fear is that Todd Bentley needs God TV for his revival. God TV needs Todd Bentley's revival for its channel. Therefore organisations fall into a symbian circle of reliance for their own existence and what God is / was / might be doing becomes blurred.<BR/><BR/>Some people may be deeply disappointed if this revival ends up not being all it was cracked up to be. That would be a crying shame given that we may be witnessing a wonderful outpouring of blessing and signs and wonders.<BR/><BR/>I also find it slightly irksome when UK Christians are willing to fly to Florida to catch a revival, when they are not willing to cross the pavement to tell their neighbours they are a Christian. I wonder how much more of a revival we would see if we stopped watching our TVs and made firends with people who do no yet know Jesus and explained our faith to them. And could God TV be used as an agent to encourage all christians to do that? Or is "Wham Bam" on the stage in Florida better for viewing figures?Blue, with a hint of amberhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17689914726284208496noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6343163817426504212.post-40338579724200069302008-06-26T13:21:00.000+01:002008-06-26T13:21:00.000+01:00Thanks Jason & Peter for your comments. Peter, you...Thanks Jason & Peter for your comments. Peter, you're right, what Trevor does in his church, to a degree is up to him. I guess my position is cautious but not disengaged. <BR/>Your point that if it is 'at least partly from God, then presumably it is what he thinks is right for this nation" is partly right, because I think it is partly what we need, but certainly not everything. But as you say I don't think we're very far from each other here.<BR/>I've yet to see here anything that can be called Revival and perhaps even to say this is an 'outpouring' in the way that Toronto was is still yet some way off.Phil Whittallhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02924050376023993196noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6343163817426504212.post-7398866650444206192008-06-26T09:17:00.000+01:002008-06-26T09:17:00.000+01:00Phillet me add my tahnks for your thoughtful and i...Phil<BR/><BR/>let me add my tahnks for your thoughtful and insightful series. I resonated strongly with your closing comment on Rob Rufus, I can't srgue with his immense annointing, but I have trouble following his strongly exhorational messages.<BR/><BR/>keep up the good workAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6343163817426504212.post-77114278231753796962008-06-25T22:25:00.000+01:002008-06-25T22:25:00.000+01:00Thanks for this series. In the end your experience...Thanks for this series. In the end your experience wasn't so difference from mine. You witnessed a smaller meeting, perhaps because it was midweek; better "worship"; nothing very special in the testimonies and preaching; a slightly dodgy offering; and although you didn't feel anything at the main impartation you did later feel "a surge like an electric current passes through me".<BR/><BR/>So, surely, we can agree that this is valid but not perfect. Maybe Trevor Baker is trying to spin this out when perhaps he should take a break, or at least allow someone else to lead sometimes. But that is a matter for him to decide.<BR/><BR/>Your final point is a good one. But how do we know what God thinks would glorify him in this nation? You seem to imply that "shortcuts to revival" is not this. But if what is happening at Dudley is at least partly from God, then presumably it is what he thinks is right for this nation. But I fully agree that "we undeniably need God's power" "to continue the hard work". If Dudley helps to give us this power, as it seems to have done for you and for me, then surely it is good.Peter Kirkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13395635409427347613noreply@blogger.com